Hi Rob,

So, I took out all the old BBS list stuff and just left the JSON and so... my BBS vanished from the list? Is the old format still required? I could put
it back but I was happy to get rid of the code that made it. (:

Thanks

The Doc.


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Re: BBSlist
By: the doctor to Digital Man on Tue Mar 08 2022 09:18 am

Hi Rob,

So, I took out all the old BBS list stuff and just left the JSON and so... my BBS vanished from the list? Is the old format still required?

No.

I could
put
it back but I was happy to get rid of the code that made it. (:

That's probably coincidental. Are you still advertising your BBS as running Synchronet software?
--
digital man (rob)

Rush quote #64:
He's cleaning up his systems to keep his nature pure .. New World Man
Norco, CA WX: 57.8øF, 29.0% humidity, 7 mph SSE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs ---
þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net

--- DIGITAL MAN wrote ---

That's probably coincidental. Are you still advertising your BBS as
running Synchronet software?
--
Ydigital man (rob)

Heh. Well, kind of. The code says:

# Trick synchronet bbs list into thinking we are one of them
print "Synchronet BBS for Win32 Version 3.18"

...and then hides it. You'd have to look at the scroll back to
notice. Pretty nafarious. I'm not sure what came over me years
ago...

On the BBS list messages, the system says it's "Quarkware BBS".

I'd love to come out of the cold, if you know what I
mean...



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Re: BBSlist
By: the doctor to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Mar 09 2022 09:17 am

That's probably coincidental. Are you still advertising your BBS as running Synchronet software?
--
Ydigital man (rob)

Heh. Well, kind of. The code says:

# Trick synchronet bbs list into thinking we are one of them
print "Synchronet BBS for Win32 Version 3.18"

...and then hides it. You'd have to look at the scroll back to
notice. Pretty nafarious. I'm not sure what came over me years
ago...

you probably had bbs software envy
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--- MRO wrote ---

you probably had bbs software envy

That's what the Freud Dude said, Ted.


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Re: BBSlist
By: the doctor to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Mar 09 2022 09:17 am

--- DIGITAL MAN wrote ---

That's probably coincidental. Are you still advertising your BBS as running Synchronet software?
--
Ydigital man (rob)

Heh. Well, kind of. The code says:

# Trick synchronet bbs list into thinking we are one of them
print "Synchronet BBS for Win32 Version 3.18"

...and then hides it. You'd have to look at the scroll back to
notice. Pretty nafarious. I'm not sure what came over me years
ago...

On the BBS list messages, the system says it's "Quarkware BBS".

I'd love to come out of the cold, if you know what I
mean...

So your BBS entry used to have it's "software" property set to "Synchronet" and that is why it would appears in the sbbslist.html. The sbbslist.html is only for Synchronet BBSes (although any/all BBSes can be/are included in the distributed sbbslist.json and browseable using the sbbslist.js "door").
--
digital man (rob)

Rush quote #28:
The future pre-decided, detached and subdivided in the mass production zone Norco, CA WX: 57.7øF, 38.0% humidity, 0 mph ESE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs ---
þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net

Re: BBSlist
By: Digital Man to the doctor on Wed Mar 09 2022 09:46 am

So your BBS entry used to have it's "software" property set to "Synchronet" and that is why it would appears in the sbbslist.html. The sbbslist.html is only for Synchronet BBSes (although any/all BBSes can be/are included in the distributed sbbslist.json and browseable using the sbbslist.js "door").

he's a bbs cuckoo!

that bird who lays it's eggs in another's nest!
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þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::

--- DIGITAL MAN wrote ---

So your BBS entry used to have it's "software" property set to
"Synchronet" and that is why it would appears in the sbbslist.html. The sbbslist.html is only for Synchronet BBSes (although any/all BBSes can be/are included in the distributed sbbslist.json and browseable using the sbbslist.js "door").
--
digital man (rob)

Ah, okay. That explains it and why it doesn't work anymore.



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--- M wrote ---
Re: BBSlist
he's a bbs cuckoo!

that bird who lays it's eggs in another's nest!

Yep. To be fair, my nest isn't very big.


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Re: BBSlist
By: the doctor to MRO on Wed Mar 09 2022 10:52 pm

--- M wrote ---
Re: BBSlist
he's a bbs cuckoo!

that bird who lays it's eggs in another's nest!

Yep. To be fair, my nest isn't very big.

i dont think people use those bbs lists anyways.
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Re: BBSlist
By: MRO to the doctor on Wed Mar 09 2022 11:08 pm

Re: BBSlist
By: the doctor to MRO on Wed Mar 09 2022 10:52 pm

--- M wrote ---
Re: BBSlist
he's a bbs cuckoo!

that bird who lays it's eggs in another's nest!

Yep. To be fair, my nest isn't very big.

i dont think people use those bbs lists anyways.
atleast with the synchronet one it actively checks if they are up.
with telnetbbsguide and iptfia guide i still find bbses that are down or just misconfigured and not picking up.

speaking of the synchronet bbs list you should probably make that syncterm list available since ftp isnt working for browsers anymore. even opera removed it. i used an old version of opera browser portable to fetch it. i'm going to try that with pcmike's site since he uses some weird auth that wont allow you to get it via an external method [ftp client]
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Re: BBSlist
By: MRO to digitalman on Wed Mar 09 2022 11:39 pm

removed it. i used an old version of opera browser portable to fetch it. i'm going to try that with pcmike's site since he uses some weird auth that wont allow you to get it via an external method [ftp client]

yep works. getting them at 4kbps!
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Re: BBSlist
By: MRO to digitalman on Wed Mar 09 2022 11:39 pm

speaking of the synchronet bbs list you should probably make that syncterm list available since ftp isnt working for browsers anymore.

Assuming you mean "available via http", yeah, done. Tomorrow's generated sbbslist.html will include an HTTP URL instead of an FTP URL. But the list is already avaliable via HTTP at http://synchro.net/Synchronet/syncterm.lst
--
digital man (rob)

Rush quote #23:
Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose
Norco, CA WX: 50.0øF, 89.0% humidity, 0 mph N wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
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Re: BBSlist
By: Digital Man to MRO on Wed Mar 09 2022 10:17 pm

Re: BBSlist
By: MRO to digitalman on Wed Mar 09 2022 11:39 pm

speaking of the synchronet bbs list you should probably make that syncterm list available since ftp isnt working for browsers anymore.

Assuming you mean "available via http", yeah, done. Tomorrow's generated sbbslist.html will include an HTTP URL instead of an FTP URL. But the list is already avaliable via HTTP at http://synchro.net/Synchronet/syncterm.

yeah i should have wrote http

here's the old opera portable that still handles ftp links if anybody needs it, btw
https://www.filehorse.com/download-opera-portable/old-versions/page-8/

some say they dropped it because of the lack of encryption. chrome said they dropped it because of lack of usage.

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--- MRO wrote ---
Re: BBSlist
i dont think people use those bbs lists anyways.

Or BBSes. I occasionally get people stopping by... I should ask them
where they came from...


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Re: BBSlist
By: the doctor to MRO on Thu Mar 10 2022 09:30 am

--- MRO wrote ---
Re: BBSlist
i dont think people use those bbs lists anyways.

Or BBSes. I occasionally get people stopping by... I should ask them
where they came from...

i have an info form and sometimes they do that.
sometimes they just find it randomly on a google search.

i've had a few crazies so i try not to advertise anymore. like some real bad ones.
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--- MRO wrote ---
Re: BBSlist

i have an info form and sometimes they do that.
sometimes they just find it randomly on a google search.

i've had a few crazies so i try not to advertise anymore. like some real
bad ones.
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? Synchronet ? ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::

You get psycho fans? I'm jealous!! I used to get those back in the day.

There was this guy, Chiken (no relation to e-chicken) named Eric Barbour
who worked for 911 emergency in Phoenix, and used that information to
harass people. He wrote a short story in which I am depicted.


(I mainly just have lines like "Mark mumbled, 'whuzzuh wazza <thump>'
and passed out".

He obviously knew me. The death threats aimed at my parents werent as funny.

Someone wrote a song about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrbnA0sP2ek


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"No matter where you go, there you are..."


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Re: BBSlist
By: the doctor to MRO on Fri Mar 11 2022 09:13 am

--- MRO wrote ---
Re: BBSlist

i have an info form and sometimes they do that.
sometimes they just find it randomly on a google search.

i've had a few crazies so i try not to advertise anymore. like some real bad ones.
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? Synchronet ? ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::

You get psycho fans? I'm jealous!! I used to get those back in the day.

There was this guy, Chiken (no relation to e-chicken) named Eric Barbour

well one of them got me kicked off of paypal. i ran that BBS torrent site and they made some rule that before signing up to paypal you have to 'register' with them. i wasnt hosting any files, but they didnt care and wouldnt check to verify. also i was on paypal long before these rules. i'm sure they had me click ok to a 30 page tos update but whatever. paypal sucks dick anyways.

all i would do was pay my bills with paypal and take donations for my bbs services (which i didnt like doing).

i'm not sure but it might be the same dude that would send me emails saying he was going to 'hack me' and run this scanner shit on my web that showed all these vulnerabilities. i told him to go ahead and 'hack' me. it was just a little vm that ran LAMP. he was a former bbs user who was weird.

then i've had dumb fuckers from way back go on irc. this goes back to the old bbsnet and me taking over datastream. this guy would say sexual stuff to deuce and act weird. i found out he was going on datastream and using it, and the owner died. so i took over datastream bbs.

then i've had other guys that were drama queens over doorgames. i have some of their emails saved.


then i had one guy post on my oneliners wall a website he made about me.
it was really stupid and trying to say that i took down my bbs services for various odd reasons. i wish i would have saved that url and mirrored it because it was funny.

you shouldn't be jealous of being harrassed by lame retarded people.
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Re: BBSlist
By: the doctor to MRO on Fri Mar 11 2022 09:13 am

--- MRO wrote ---
Re: BBSlist

i have an info form and sometimes they do that.
sometimes they just find it randomly on a google search.

i've had a few crazies so i try not to advertise anymore. like some real bad ones.
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? Synchronet ? ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::

You get psycho fans? I'm jealous!! I used to get those back in the day.

There was this guy, Chiken (no relation to e-chicken) named Eric Barbour
who worked for 911 emergency in Phoenix, and used that information to
harass people. He wrote a short story in which I am depicted.

(I mainly just have lines like "Mark mumbled, 'whuzzuh wazza <thump>'
and passed out".

He obviously knew me. The death threats aimed at my parents werent as funny.

Someone wrote a song about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrbnA0sP2ek

Interesting. Where's the short story?
--
digital man (rob)

Rush quote #1:
Danger plus survival equals fun. - Neil Peart
Norco, CA WX: 69.8øF, 9.0% humidity, 3 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
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þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net

--- MRO wrote ---
Re: BBSlist
By: the doctor to MRO on Fri Mar 11 2022 09:13 am

you shouldn't be jealous of being harrassed by lame retarded people.

I'm not, really... I mean, I remember when folks actually bothered to hack into my system... (knock on wood)

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"No matter where you go, there you are..."


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--- DIGITAL MAN wrote ---

Interesting. Where's the short story?

I had it, very briefly, on my website, but the xyl who was one of the
subjects objected, and I don't blame her, so I took it down.

It was funny to me, but I wasn't a main character. It was pretty nasty
to her, and to Mike Donnelly (author of Gilder...)

I've got it someplace. If I find it I'll send you a copy via email.


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"No matter where you go, there you are..."


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Re: BBSlist
By: the doctor to MRO on Thu Mar 10 2022 09:30 am

--- MRO wrote ---
Re: BBSlist
i dont think people use those bbs lists anyways.

Or BBSes. I occasionally get people stopping by... I should ask them where they came from...

doctor, doctor, doctoor... you should know where people come from; but which came first, the chicken or the egg. =)
===

Sincerely,
Jon Justvig
Stepping Stone BBS
telnet://steppingstonebbs.com
http://steppingstonebbs.com
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32
* Origin: (1:14/25)
þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net

On 3/13/2022 1:56 PM, the doctor wrote:

--- DIGITAL MAN wrote ---

Interesting. Where's the short story?

I had it, very briefly, on my website, but the xyl who was one of the subjects objected, and I don't blame her, so I took it down.

It was funny to me, but I wasn't a main character. It was pretty nasty
to her, and to Mike Donnelly (author of Gilder...)

I've got it someplace. If I find it I'll send you a copy via email.

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"No matter where you go, there you are..."

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The Doctor,

Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

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­ Synchronet ­ IPTIA - bbs2.ipingthereforeiam.com:2323

Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

Why does it matter?

- Andre

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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Andre to dragon on Sat Mar 19 2022 08:22 pm

Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

Why does it matter?

It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.

... Guns don't kill people. Bullets kill people.

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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: dragon to the doctor on Sat Mar 19 2022 08:28 pm

The Doctor,

Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

you can make a new thread or send him private mail, ya know.

syncdata isnt meant to be read by humans.
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It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.

I'm not following. Who cares if he posts to syncdata fifty times a day?


- Andre

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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Andre to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 09:10 am

It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.

I'm not following. Who cares if he posts to syncdata fifty times a day?

I agree. Syncdata is meant for transferring data for Synchronet and related things, and isn't meant for humans to read. Things should be able to post in there as much as needed. I wouldn't normally see it anyway.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Andre to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 09:10 am

It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.

I'm not following. Who cares if he posts to syncdata fifty times a day?

Nightfox is probably the only one that freaks out over this.


... A 45 beats a royal flush EVERY TIME.

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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Denn to Andre on Sun Mar 20 2022 06:46 pm

I'm not following. Who cares if he posts to syncdata fifty times a
day?

Nightfox is probably the only one that freaks out over this.

Huh? I've never noticed how many times anyone posts in syncdata (and it doesn't bother me) I don't look at that sub and I have it disabled in my newscan. I'm not sure where you got this idea that I'd be freaked out about it..? Unless you've randomly decided to troll me?

Nightfox

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þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com

--- DRAGON wrote ---
On 3/13/2022 1:56 PM, the doctor wrote:

The Doctor,

Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

No, not really. I'll fix it...


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"No matter where you go, there you are..."


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--- ANDRE wrote ---

Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

Why does it matter?

Shrug. I don't know.

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"No matter where you go, there you are..."


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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Nightfox to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 07:18 pm

Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Denn to Andre on Sun Mar 20 2022 06:46 pm

I'm not following. Who cares if he posts to syncdata fifty times a
day?

Nightfox is probably the only one that freaks out over this.

Huh? I've never noticed how many times anyone posts in syncdata (and it doesn't bother me) I don't look at that sub and I have it disabled in my newscan. I'm not sure where you got this idea that I'd be freaked out about it..? Unless you've randomly decided to troll me?

yeah i have mine turned off for users. it's not meant for human consumption, like i said.
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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: the doctor to DRAGON on Mon Mar 21 2022 09:03 am

--- DRAGON wrote ---
On 3/13/2022 1:56 PM, the doctor wrote:

The Doctor,

Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

No, not really. I'll fix it...

so you are posting every single day to the list, right?
that is a lot, though. are you trying to get on the synchronet bbs list
by scripting that?
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þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::

--- MRO wrote ---
so you are posting every single day to the list, right?
that is a lot, though. are you trying to get on the synchronet bbs list
by scripting that?

Well, yes. I'm not trying to do that to get on the list... I could do
that by going back to my old ways (that no one ever complained about)
of spoofing that I was Synchronet.

It's simply that I'm lazy... my software runs maintenance tasks once a
night. I could write a proper scheduler I suppose, if that will make
folks happier.

Any opinions on just how often it should run?

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"No matter where you go, there you are..."


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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: the doctor to MRO on Mon Mar 21 2022 12:41 pm

--- MRO wrote ---
so you are posting every single day to the list, right?
that is a lot, though. are you trying to get on the synchronet bbs list by scripting that?

Well, yes. I'm not trying to do that to get on the list... I could do
that by going back to my old ways (that no one ever complained about)
of spoofing that I was Synchronet.

Well, that is a bbs list for synchronet bbses. you really shouldn't put yourself on that website list of synchronet bbses. there's other lists out there. you're just being deceptive and i think it's just wrong to do that or think of doing that.

i see there's other systems on there that are non synchronet. if i were running the list i'd make their entries a separate link.

your bbs is unique and you should work that angle.
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--- MRO wrote ---
Re: Re: BBSlist

Well, that is a bbs list for synchronet bbses. you really shouldn't put yourself on that website list of synchronet bbses. there's other lists
out there. you're just being deceptive and i think it's just wrong to do that or think of doing that.

Yeah. I talked to DM on here just the other day, and he said that the
web based list is for Synchronet Only... so i don't appear on it. That's
fair enough and his call... and I'm no longer pretending to be one.

He also said it was fine for me to send the messages, and I would appear
on the BBS based list, which I do. I also have a BBS based list (with previews) and I don't limit it to QBBS only. (:

i see there's other systems on there that are non synchronet. if i were
running the list i'd make their entries a separate link.

your bbs is unique and you should work that angle.

Thanks for saying. I agree with you, btw. (:

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